Ep 88 Jimmy Doyle
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[00:00:00] Hey, I'm Alena Turley. Today I'm truly honored and delighted to have the gorgeous Jimmy Doyle with me. Jimmy is one of the people who, when you Google the words. Top five healers, Bali. Jimmy Doyle's name will come up and he's my guest today because I was referred to him by a friend and did a little bit of work with him.
[00:00:25] And it was a really amazing experience. He's a body-mind therapist. He has been for over 40 years. In his own words, he shows people their power, the power of words, and the law of attraction. He is a very.
[00:00:41] Really a unique person in the sense that when you speak to Jimmy, you get a sense of how simple things can be when it comes to finding your own power and coming home to yourself. And the way that he works is unusual. And even the way that he calls himself a body-mind therapist, it's, it's a refreshing take on something that can be sometimes quite confusing and kind of. A little bit elusive, I guess, this kind of. work.
[00:01:09] And so it really is such a delight to be able to present to you my conversation with Jimmy Doyle. I hope you enjoy it as much as we did.
[00:01:17] BEATS EVERY WHEEK!
[00:01:29] Jimmy: Thank you for having me for the delightful chance to talk about what we do.
[00:01:33] Alena: . It's an absolute pleasure to sit here with you, Jimmy. I start every conversation with the same three questions.
[00:01:39] Who are you? Where are you? And what do you love to do?
[00:01:45] Jimmy: Okay. So I'm a 67 year old Australian male from The pastimes, which is not exactly what everyone lives into, I'm still quite old fashioned in what I do. I'm a body mind therapist as part of my deal. I'm also a, a dad, a husband, a son, all the little things that come into being who we become.
[00:02:03] I love doing lots of things. I love surfing as part of, I live in Bali. I've been in Bali for nearly 13 years. I love my little family I've created here. I also have daughters from a previous marriage. I have grandchildren. I love what I do in my job because I love what it does. It helps people take their power back.
[00:02:22] And that's one of the lovely things that why I've done this job over 40 years. It is a delightful thing to see people take their power back of where they're going physically, emotionally, and mentally. It's all a lovely little combination to do. So I hope that imparts a little bit about who I am and where I am.
[00:02:40] Alena: Yeah. So, so many things I'd love to ask you from there. I guess I'd first question I have is how would you define the work that you do when you say body mind therapist? What does that mean for you? It helps people take their power back, but how does that work?
[00:02:55] Jimmy: Okay. So what I do is whether people be present with me in the room here or I do it on FaceTime, but what I, where there's blocks, pain, malfunctions, illness.
[00:03:05] In people's bodies I correlate it all to be subconscious, everything, whether it's an ingrown toenail, cancer, infertility back problems, sleep problems, period problems, they're all the same thing. So, what I do in my little presence here is teach people the power of words their power, the power of words, the law of attraction.
[00:03:25] There's a lovely experiment that was done in 1994 by a Japanese scientist named Masura Emoto, and what he did was get water at each end of the bench, and what he got his students to come in and, See the first lot of water and they'd say incredibly negative stuff to it. They're, I hate you, you're disgusting, you, I don't like to drink you.
[00:03:44] The other bottles of water he got them to say how much they loved it, how much they look forward to drinking it, how, you know, they desired it all the time. And then he took samples from each of the bottles of water and froze them, put them under a microscope. The water with the negative words was a dense, ugly structure.
[00:04:00] The ones with the beautiful words had this beautiful crystallized structure. We're 85 percent fluid in our body, so our brain's 90%. So that means when we think negative things, we say negative things, we be in negative positions or with people or situations, then that's where we attract our blocks, our pain, our illnesses that we attract to ourselves.
[00:04:22] How I work with people is I either touch the point or get them to touch the point. Where it's either acupressure or trigger points. I get them to touch the point and they'll say how sore it is. They'll then look into their eyes, especially on FaceTime in the room. It's a bit different. They got their head down a hole or got their eyes closed looking up.
[00:04:43] But I get them to say word patterns out, which makes them really uncomfortable. They know they're very positive statements, but it's always uncomfortable. It pulls emotions out of people, makes people anxious, frustrated. They're saying the things they know, but. They've never been programmed to say it loud.
[00:04:58] So what happens to them as they're doing that? There's always instant change to their physical discomfort or pain or problem that they have and it's a process depending on, you know, how long they've entrenched that pattern into their head. How many, you know, how often they have to keep saying these things or, or protect themselves when the negative things come.
[00:05:17] So it's, it's quite it's very simple that the process that I use, but quite powerful in what it does for people. And that's where I talk about them taking their power back because they start learning to say positive things about themselves, such as I love and approve of myself. I love and accept myself.
[00:05:31] I love and appreciate myself, which you'd be surprised if people get incredibly uncomfortable with. One of the things that with it, Elena is. Always then teach them how to protect themselves against negative things. Now, I often ask people, you know, how do you protect yourself when you're anxious, when you're frustrated, when you're pissed off?
[00:05:49] 99 percent of people respond by talking about reactions. They talk about putting walls up, withdrawing, screaming, yelling, going quiet. They're all reactions, they're not protection. So, there's a lovely little method of protection. That it's by putting the tip of the tongue to the roof of the mouth.
[00:06:05] Now, about two and a half centimeters, one inch from the back of your teeth, where the ridge goes from behind your teeth, just rising up into that palate of your mouth. If people gently touch on that little point there, what they do is instantly connect their third eye. So there's a physical structure or physical bone going from where you're touching there, straight to the bottom of your brain.
[00:06:25] And on top of that sits your pineal gland. And pineal gland is wisdom, insight, intuition, gut feeling. One of the things all women are gifted with, often women don't choose to listen to it, though men are not gifted with it. And men's egos choose not to learn it. Mm-hmm. Stuff for all the 41 years I've been doing this using my tongue for protection because obviously I've gotta stay strong when I'm working with people and I hear dark stuff from people and you know, difficult situations that they go through and it's often not nice hearing, but the fact is they need to talk about it, they need to release it.
[00:06:54] And I'm the facilitator for that. And so if I didn't use my tongue, then I'd end up sick and all the people that I treat, so.
[00:07:01] Yeah. This is the little thing that takes a lot of discipline, a lot of commitment about learning to put your tongue to the roof of the mouth. It's used in sleep, stress, connection, protection, meditation, it's used for a lot of different things.
[00:07:12] But the difficult part is putting your tongue there when you're, But emotional things going on and because the emotion generally overrides it and we forget to do those things. So that's in a nutshell of what I do. So it helps all sorts of conditions. And you know, it's quite powerful, but quite simple.
[00:07:28] But it keeps going back to referring to which glass of water you're feeding. Are you feeding that negative glass or the positive glass? Once we start to learn to, you know, our subconscious as well, this is all subconscious, it's not conscious state.
[00:07:39] Yeah. And most of us are not taught to address what's really in our head.
[00:07:43] One of the things I do, Alina, is always when left shoulder goes out on people, and I work on left side female, right side male.
[00:07:50] Alena: Yeah.
[00:07:51] Jimmy: One thing that's not gender specific, often with the shoulders, when it gets there is that left shoulder will be guilt about responsibility to know yourself, to be yourself.
[00:07:59] And we're all trying to please everyone else will get their approval, get their appreciation, get their acceptance. That's why I get people to say, I love and approve of myself. I love and accept myself. So by saying those little things, you start to do those things for yourself and not wait for others to do it.
[00:08:15] So in that point of doing that, that then, as I said, it's uncomfortable from saying it. And as I said, it generally brings emotions out with people. And they often don't want to say it because I'll laugh and say, well, that's not true. My deal is never to convince people. To think a different way. It's just to say different patterns as they say them instantly that lure of attraction starts to, so then we go back to the tongue is then you've got to be aware when this negative stuff comes, such as this knowing yourself to be yourself, the right shoulder is then often guilt about gaining for yourself and everything we do, you know, always want everyone else to gain rather than ourselves.
[00:08:49] But both of them are our responsibilities to know ourselves. And as I said, often people don't know who they are. And you asked me who I was. And I straight away do what everyone else does and said, I'm a 67 year old Australian male. I'm a compassionate, empathetic person who gets frustrated and pissed off with idiots.
[00:09:08] And I don't, I don't deal with a lot of nonsense there. So Once you start little things like receiving pleasure, I'm a giver, not a receiver. Once you start to understand these little things about yourself, then you start to understand when you need to protect yourself.
[00:09:22] Speaker 14: Ankle
[00:09:22] Speaker 12: is quite an interesting little situation.
[00:09:24] Often people get problems with their ankles and it's not, it's through guilt or inflexibility about receiving pleasure, not giving pleasure, receiving pleasure. So that can be a gift. It can be compliments. It can be having a sleep in, having a day off. Often, again, we'll feel guilty about these little things and then often ankle problems comes.
[00:09:42] Once you understand those little things about yourself, when you're being given a gift and you don't want the gift or you're given a compliment, you don't want the compliment. That's when you learn to put your tongue on the roof of your mouth. The beauty of it, Alina, nobody knows you're doing it. Your mouth's closed.
[00:09:54] Yes. You're still here. They don't know you're doing it, but you're connected and protected. So it's a, it's a simple little technique, but it takes a lot of discipline and practice.
[00:10:03] Speaker 11: Talking about where it goes. There's a, I know you get asked this all the time. There's like the space between the teeth, then there's a kind of a ramp and then there's another bump.
[00:10:14] How far between the start of the ramp and the other bump are you talking?
[00:10:17] Speaker 12: So what I say is two and a half centimeters from the back of the teeth or one inch from the back of the teeth. If people Google up, The 10th connection. That's what it's called is the 10th connection by Googling up the 10th connection, it teaches you what, what it's distance from it, but what people find when they touch it, when it's active, it's quite sensitive.
[00:10:39] And that's the beauty of it. Once you start learning to touch it, then it gets sensitive and then the sensitivity means you're starting to pay attention to your subconscious or your sensitive self, which we start realizing, oh, that's what pisses me off. And that's what frustrates me. Then you start learning to connect and protect it.
[00:10:54] But it takes, it's not easy to put there, especially when you're emotional.
[00:10:58] Speaker 11: Bit of practice. I learned it actually in martial arts when When I learned to meditate in the martial arts, I study Hapkido, which is a Korean martial art, and I've done it for about, I don't know, 10, 11 years, and I'm a black belt instructor, and still a lot of people don't know about this, but when you're meditating, it's something we learned to do as a way of connecting meridians.
[00:11:18] You know, in the sort of Eastern way of thinking. Yeah,
[00:11:21] Speaker 12: so same thing is what we're saying. Yeah, what you're saying, there's a kundalini raising or heart building. That's one of the techniques that's used in meditation. It's interesting. Most meditations don't teach it. Society doesn't teach it because I don't remember
[00:11:33] Speaker 11: where I learned it, but I did learn it in definitely at
[00:11:36] Speaker 12: some point, like a lot of Asian cultures done the delightful and what they do.
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[00:12:32] Speaker 12: I also use the body clock, which is a 3000 year old method. They're not new things. That's cool. But that gets you back to. Isolating instead of having to know the whole meridian line, you isolate back to a power point of meridian lines, which then helps the function of sleep, helps the function of pain in your body, but making it that way probably.
[00:12:51] But that's the thing, but the little thing that's interesting, you said there about often people come and they'll meditate and they're very good at meditation, but then they realize by using their tongue, the meditation climbs 10 times more powerful because they stop the voice. That's what is stopping those other negative influences we get in our head, which cause problems to us.
[00:13:11] And but if we don't know us and we don't know our vulnerable qualities, then we manifest.
[00:13:16] Speaker 11: I really think that connection is so much a founding kind of concept and a founding experience for so much of our healing, like connection within and also connection between. But I want to return to that, but I also want to ask you, how did you come to do this work?
[00:13:32] How did you learn to do this work?
[00:13:34] Speaker 12: So, 43 or 44 years ago, I had a car accident and I injured my back and shoulder quite badly and I already had pain in many way, which I realized it just accentuated the pain. Through the process of going through the medical world, who the options were quite disastrous.
[00:13:50] It was putting a rod down my back and screwing the vertebrae together and doing a lateral release on my shoulder. Well, that was as a young kid. Man, these early twenties was quite confronting and that's what made me go and say there's got to be other ways of doing this. And of course, I'm not any medical, the medical world is does great things to help interfere.
[00:14:08] Generally, it doesn't fix things, but it interferes and it helps us master things and helps us manage things. So the deal was not to go on, you know, as a young man that stuck down my back was not going to be a great outcome. So I initially learned deep tissue massage by a very, Powerful man named John Goodenbill in La Crosse and Sydney.
[00:14:26] Spent a couple of years with him learning It was learning about deep tissue treatments and so that was the first part of it and it was interesting. It was the first person of treatments that I had through chiropractic physio. All the cortisone injections, all the little things there were actually made an impact in the treatment, but it hurt.
[00:14:42] Yeah, it
[00:14:43] Speaker 11: does hurt, doesn't
[00:14:44] Speaker 12: it? Oh
[00:14:46] Speaker 11: man, it hurts. Not for the faint hearted.
[00:14:48] Speaker 12: Well, it's not, but the fact was it started the deal where I realized, wow, that actually helped.
[00:14:53] Speaker 14: Yeah.
[00:14:53] Speaker 12: So through the process of doing that I've then come across a lot of different modalities of kinesiology, theta healing, body, mind, soul, the physical treatment I did with the Swedish Remedial Massage.
[00:15:08] So all those little things. That's how I then put together all these little different things. There's also two other things. Very influential women in, in my treatments of what I do, of Louise Hay, who does books like You Can Heal Your Body, also, and at Noontill, an Australian author who does The Body is the Barometer of the Soul.
[00:15:24] They're very helpful books. Did
[00:15:26] Speaker 13: you meet those women, Jimmy? No, I've
[00:15:28] Speaker 12: never met either of them. As you know, Louise Hay is dead now. She died about four years ago, but no, I've never come across them. But two incredibly powerful women who still have a great influence, even though Louise Haye is dead. She still has a massive influence and will have in time.
[00:15:44] Can
[00:15:44] Speaker 11: I tell you my Louise Haye story? I did actually, I was in the same room as her once. So I grew up in a household where my mother, when something was wrong, she would pull out the book with the rainbow on the front and the list of elements. We barely went to the doctor. That was our doctor. And, at the time it seemed very strange, but it was quite effective.
[00:16:03] And, and, you know, sometimes it'd be frustrating. I just want to go to the doctor. Well, have you looked in the Louise Hay book yet? And then one day, probably, I want to say 18, 15 years ago, maybe she came to Australia when she was in her eighties and she was up on stage with one of her, one of the women that she gave a lot of her kind of She, she was seeding a lot of her wisdom too and kind of mentoring, you know, she had a few of those, but I can't remember her name.
[00:16:30] She was fantastic as well. But what I remember is Louise Hay getting up on stage, telling me how to make broth and how to put all your veggie scraps in a, in a drawer in the freezer so that you always could make broth. And. And talking, funnily enough, with a total potty mouth, she swore like a trooper, which I loved because you don't see that side of her in the videos.
[00:16:53] But when she was on stage, she dropped the F bomb multiple times. And she talked about how she could carry her keys in her bra. She was just a very down to earth person. And she was quite. you know, elderly, and I wouldn't say frail, but she was diminutive, you know, a small frame. And it was sort of surprising, but she had this lightness and this humor to her.
[00:17:15] And I think that really speaks to what you're talking about, that if you're going to do work in this space, and you're going to do it, Do work where people tell you really heavy stories. You do have to protect yourself. You do have to bring that lightness, you know, that you mentioned to the work, otherwise you can't keep doing it.
[00:17:33] I guess.
[00:17:34] Speaker 12: And that's why I've done it for 40 years. 41 years, I've had that little protection. That's, I love, that's the first time I've ever heard a real story about Louise Hay.
[00:17:42] Speaker 11: Really?
[00:17:43] Speaker 12: Often people come, they'll Google my name up, and I get listed in the top five heels in Bali, and
[00:17:49] Speaker 15: Yeah.
[00:17:49] Speaker 12: So I'm the only non Indonesian that's on there, and I, when people open my door at Leonardale, all of a sudden go, oh, and I said, there's a problem, and they said, oh, you're not what we expected.
[00:17:58] What do you expect? So I'm a bald headed you know, just what you described there, potty mouthed Australian. Oh, me too. And the point is, but then you're real about this, we're not standing here pretending we're not, but what they expected, someone who had dreadlocks, a beard, in the caftan, burning incense, saying, far out, man, that's not what I'm going to do.
[00:18:17] And that can become quite confronting to people. We actually be real about that situation. What do you think
[00:18:21] Speaker 11: that is? What do you think the confronting part of this is? You said that people feel really uncomfortable when they start to say these words or, you know, when they start to change the phrases in their own mind and body in response to a particular sensation or problem.
[00:18:38] Why do you think that's so confronting?
[00:18:41] Speaker 12: Programs, I think, because of how we're programmed. Yeah. And that's what I work is rewiring the hip. So you're putting the program of positivity into you rather than the one that was put you and we're all told we were not good enough, we were inadequate, we're unworthy.
[00:18:53] All those little things as a kid growing up, whether that be at school, by parents, by history, by society, by DNA. Yeah. So once we start saying these positive things, especially, it's one of the things I do with, with especially women, with their thyroid and one of the reasons the thyroid goes out is because of humiliation about.
[00:19:11] When do I get to do what I want to do? When's it my turn?
[00:19:14] Speaker 13: Yeah. And I'll
[00:19:15] Speaker 12: often say to them, so when is it your turn? And then they can't answer. They, they, they just cry. Yeah. Because they don't feel it's ever their turn. So this is our humble, non programmed self to actually be in love with self because we're told that's selfish and egotistical.
[00:19:28] So we don't do those things because we're not made to be comfortable with them. And I've said this stuff so much times, you know, because of Louise Hay's thought patterns or and it tells a different direction about where you're going, but I've said it so much time. It's just my pattern now.
[00:19:44] Speaker 15: That's
[00:19:44] Speaker 12: the thing I'm comfortable with saying it, like all things.
[00:19:47] So we liken it to We, you know, we want to drive a car. So we get in there and we're incredibly nervous and we stall the car and we hit the wrong button or don't, you know, change lanes as we should. But after you've been doing it for years, you just get in, turn the keys on and just drive it. This is no different because it's once the program's changed, you become changed as well, but we're often.
[00:20:09] Uncomfortable saying anything about ourselves because especially in Australian society where
[00:20:14] Speaker 15: you
[00:20:14] Speaker 12: get really selfish, you fool yourself, which is none of the above because it's that thing I talked about shoulders, our responsibility is not to feel guilt about knowing yourself to be yourself or to gain for ourselves.
[00:20:26] And you say that to most people and that's exactly what they'll tell you, you're selfish. So it's There's a difference though, isn't there?
[00:20:32] Speaker 11: And I do, I'm really interested in this because I work with women mainly and I'm just at the start of, well, I say I'm at the start of, I'm at the start of calling myself a somatic therapist.
[00:20:42] I think I've actually been doing it for a bloody long time. And I remember about 10 years ago going, why are all my friends healers and therapists? You know, like, this is so weird. And then now I kind of get why, but I just think it's really interesting that this thing about receiving is huge for women.
[00:21:01] I'd love to hear your take on that. I think, I mean, I know what I think, but I would love to hear what you think about it.
[00:21:06] Speaker 12: Well, they give us them, that's they give them life. That's the first job they do is they give life. So they're already taught to be givers. As I said, often women have ankle problems.
[00:21:14] Their ankles are swollen because they don't receive pleasure. They're givers. And once they start to understand themselves, they don't need to change themselves. They just, when those compliments or gifts and nice things come at you, you learn to put your tongue up there. But I also believe in depending on where you are in the world and society.
[00:21:30] And obviously you're in Bali. That's a delightful thing. I get to treat people from all over the world, but
[00:21:35] Speaker 13: yeah.
[00:21:36] Speaker 12: That's what women are programmed to be is to almost to serve and women humbly do that very, very well and that doesn't make them better or less. It just says that's what women are good at doing.
[00:21:46] That's what we
[00:21:46] Speaker 11: have hormones to back that up. I mean, estrogen is a very, very powerful hormone of, you
[00:21:52] Speaker 12: know, backing up breast mother and nurture. Yeah, that's what women have problems with their breath is because they'll over mother over nurture, put in the house for that's called why they have that title.
[00:22:03] Mothers. Yeah. That's part of that little deal, I believe, is why they get these little afflictions come to them. And it's it, unfortunately, we all complicate everything, Alina, and that's the problem. We had a young gentleman who was had many issues, but he'd done lots of work and he was teaching him to meditate and and saying, you know, follow the breath in the end of your nose, rise and fall of your chest.
[00:22:25] When a thought comes, acknowledge the thought and dismiss the thought. All he wanted to focus is, so he said, Jim, so what do I take the breath in my left nostril, bring it down my right nostril, up my right nostril, down my left nostril, I said, mate, stop. I said, you just breathe. I said, when you're a master, mate, you will do that.
[00:22:41] But the fact is, you're just learning this. Just breathe. But that's the point. We make it complicated because we've heard the stories of what the guru on the mountain did. So we all think we've got to do the same thing.
[00:22:51] Speaker 14: It's
[00:22:51] Speaker 12: just being ourselves and not complicating things once you simplify it. And that's what I do in here is incredibly simple, but incredibly powerful.
[00:23:01] Speaker 11: And what do you think comes up again and again, like with your clients? What's the most common reason like people come to you for help?
[00:23:09] Speaker 12: A multitude of things, whether it's a sore back, whether it's a period problem, whatever, just with women, a really common thing that they get will be period pain.
[00:23:18] And most, again, you go back to programs again, and I asked most women, what was your first experience like with your mother when you first got introduced to your periods? And of course they go, it was disastrous. It was embarrassing. It was uncomfortable. When it should have been, here's your power darling, and there's a little point on your pubic bone by, or points on your pubic bone if you touch either outside edge of it and hold it every night for 30 seconds and say the statement, I embrace my feminine principles, I love being a woman, then that's exactly what your feminine principles start doing.
[00:23:49] You menstruate well, you ovulate well, you're regular on the deal, you don't get crazy girl coming out, you don't get PMS, you don't get PMT, you don't get the cramps, you don't get the heavy flow, light flow, but this is changing programs. And every night, pressing that little point for 30 seconds and saying that statement out loud.
[00:24:06] And that's the key of all this, saying it out loud, because we talked about the glass of water before. Once you say it out loud, the universe will respond to it. And it really is, again, that simple, but once they start to learn to embrace their principles, all of a sudden their periods regulate, they don't get the cramps, they don't get the heavy flow, the light flow, the little miss emotional doesn't come out three days before they start to manage it.
[00:24:26] So that's a common thing that all females that I point to do that with them.
[00:24:32] Speaker 15: That's amazing, isn't
[00:24:33] Speaker 12: it? Little things, breast problems is a big problem. We just talked about that before, about over mothering, over protecting, over bearing attitudes, because they're mothers. So they do those things, they put everyone else first.
[00:24:45] But in doing so, they cause great grief to their breast and paying attention again, whether it's left or right side, you start to influence whether it's the men you're mothering or the women you're mothering, whether it be children, husband, father, mother.
[00:24:58] Speaker 15: Yes.
[00:24:59] Speaker 12: It's a very common thing that happens with it.
[00:25:02] The other really common thing that goes is Two things that I say, if you're not sleeping properly or not shitting properly, then you're not going good and they're really important things to do and sleep means when you go to bed, putting it on the pillow to not move until the alarm goes off in the morning, wake up, be refreshed, that's sleeping properly.
[00:25:19] And most people going back to the Chinese body clock. There's two hours, every two hours, one of the organs peak. So on the night clock, for example 9 till 11 is the triple warmer. 11 to 1 is gallbladder, 1 to 3 is liver, 3 to 5 is lungs, 5 to 7 is colon or bowel. So there's a constant time you're waking.
[00:25:38] There often will be issues with those functions of those organs. But it's always about what emotions go with them. So example, three to five lungs. Lungs are about sadness, grief, anguish, abandonment, guilt, anxiety. So when we wake at that time, we think our partner's snoring or the dog barked or I need to go to the toilet.
[00:25:55] It's not as those emotions being pulled at that time. So this is where we start to understand and know who we are and then learn to protect. So there's little points on your body if you press and say little statements with them. Then it helps you sleep properly. The other one, bowel. Bowels are really interesting ones.
[00:26:12] So living in barley, barley has its own little title, you call it barley belly. Yes. I think it's quite a hilarious title, and deli gets another one, deli belly.
[00:26:21] Speaker 14: Yeah.
[00:26:21] Speaker 12: So when, two things that go with it is vomiting and diarrhea. So vomiting is when we have violent rejection of new ideas or violent rejection of the new.
[00:26:30] We vomit. Yeah. So people come here, they've got to change money. They, they vomit. They're told not to drink the water if they brush their teeth with the water, they're going to die. So they come with great fear inside of them and there's, this is new, so they'll get uncomfortable with it. Then their subconscious rejects it.
[00:26:45] Diarrhoea is when there's fear, rejection, running away. So there's the word fear again. Once we fear these little things we're going to do, and this is not conscious. But not of the
[00:26:54] Speaker 11: new. So diarrhea is not fear of the new, it's just fear.
[00:26:57] Speaker 12: It's just fear, fear, rejection, running away that when we have chronic diarrhea, it's when we have a goal and we realize we can't attain that goal.
[00:27:06] So we just give up. So therefore chronic diarrhea will come. On the reverse hand, constipation is when we're stuck in the past or we're stuck in old patterns, refuse to change. And that might be, I need to drink water every day and I don't do it.
[00:27:19] Speaker 11: I need to not go
[00:27:20] Speaker 12: to this job that I hate, but I go there every day.
[00:27:22] Speaker 11: Resistance to change.
[00:27:24] Speaker 12: Okay. So we get stuck in the pattern. So when we're stingy. And as you know, us lovely Australians, we use the lovely term tight asses.
[00:27:33] Speaker 15: Yeah.
[00:27:33] Speaker 12: So if you're a tight ass, you're not going to shit properly. That's a reality. That's so great. Then the other one that goes without words, when we've got all these words we want to say, and we hold the words, we get stuck on the words, that also causes confrontation as well.
[00:27:45] Speaker 14: Yeah.
[00:27:46] Speaker 12: So these little things, when we start to understand, this is getting to know ourself.
[00:27:49] Speaker 14: Yeah.
[00:27:50] Speaker 12: You know, then we actually, then the functions work properly. Yes. We're all going to die at some point. That's a reality of our body. Our body has a set time where it's going to, it's going to not be used by anymore.
[00:28:01] Speaker 14: Yeah.
[00:28:02] Speaker 12: But if what our aim is to the time we are awake, alive, that we do it in our most pain free state, our most positive state, our most energetic state. And that's where these little simple things about getting to know yourself, you start to be yourself. You also don't go with all the pains that everyone else carries.
[00:28:19] Speaker 11: Yeah.
[00:28:19] Speaker 12: That's
[00:28:21] Speaker 11: beautiful. I want to ask you about multi system things. So like things like mental health, anxiety, or, you know, hormonal imbalances and auto immunes. Is that when they involve multi system, because this is a really big thing in our Society at the moment, isn't it? What's your take on that? Like, does the root cause matter?
[00:28:41] It sounds like for the work that you do, the root cause is not really the most important thing. It's more about how you respond to it. Once you know it's happening,
[00:28:50] Speaker 12: once you know it's happening, and that's where you say these positive statements. Just an example of what we've all been through in the world for Covid.
[00:28:57] So, you know, Melbourne was the most locked down city of the world. And in that time they were not to mix with each other, they were not to go to work, not to go and visit their families when they were dying, go and go to weddings, they were restricted movements, unbelievably. Check the numbers at that time, that's when the numbers skyrocketed.
[00:29:14] In Melbourne of that virus. If we look at the origin of the virus, the virus has come when there's bitterness or there's no joy flowing through life. So, do you think those people who were locked down were not bitter? Of course they were. Do you think the joy had been taken away from them? Of course it was.
[00:29:30] So therefore, that leaves them vulnerable to the virus.
[00:29:34] Speaker 11: Yeah, so immunity and joy, that's interesting.
[00:29:36] Speaker 12: Yeah. Joy and bitterness. There's a lot about viral things. Everything has a, the word anxiety used, and anxiety is a really common thing that goes with people. It really is. And that's why it's important to wake between that three and five, because it's related to the lungs.
[00:29:51] But anxiety is, as soon as we don't trust the flow and the process, you know, whether that's getting the job done, being in a relationship, getting up and, you know, doing the things that you desire to do, that causes anxiety.
[00:30:04] Speaker 14: Yeah.
[00:30:04] Speaker 12: So, but we've got to know ourselves when those things come. So when we, we do know them, up goes the tongue, you stop that pattern manifesting in subconscious, which means it doesn't keep then addressing the body, but we've got to know ourselves whatever.
[00:30:16] And I always say to people, you're not here when I work with them, they're not to change. They're already perfect as they are, or the job is to get to know themselves so they can be themselves. Once they be that, then they're trying to please everyone else. A lot of people's health just changes on that when they start to know who they are.
[00:30:32] Speaker 11: Yeah, that's so powerful.
[00:30:34] Speaker 12: It's simplifying it, is how I keep saying them. Don't make it complicated. Don't make it complicated. Because that's what we
[00:30:39] Speaker 15: want. Yeah.
[00:30:41] Speaker 12: And I'm a rather simple man on sometimes that bothers people because I put it in such a simplistic version, but it doesn't mean it's great.
[00:30:50] Speaker 11: It's great.
[00:30:51] I mean, I just say thoughts are there. Thoughts are there to be thought and feelings are there to be felt. It doesn't mean you believe every single one.
[00:30:58] Speaker 12: You know, the lovely Bruce Lee. He made a little statement. Be careful what you say or think. And especially as Australians, we're facetious. We take the piss a lot, especially about ourselves.
[00:31:11] His statement was, the universe doesn't know whether you're joking or not. It just hears a statement. So it'll react to that statement, such as, every June I get a cold. Get ready for the first of June coming, you're getting a cold.
[00:31:21] Speaker 14: You
[00:31:22] Speaker 12: know, something difficult's in front of you and you go, oh, that'll never work.
[00:31:24] Then don't do it. You just told the universe it won't work.
[00:31:29] Speaker 11: It's so true. I have a member of my family who often says, I've got a bad back or I've got a bad elbow or I've got a bad leg or something like that, you know? And I said, no, no, no, you can say I've got a sore back. You can say, I'm feeling some pain in my back, but if you say I've got a bad back, well, you've got it.
[00:31:47] Speaker 13: You get
[00:31:47] Speaker 11: what you say. That's right. And it really It really annoys them.
[00:31:53] Speaker 12: I laugh when you say that about the book, because that's what I've always done with especially my wife now. She's Indonesian, and Indonesians, their culture is quite different to Australian culture, so they really do connect with their elders beautifully.
[00:32:06] Speaker 11: Oh, I love that about
[00:32:07] Speaker 12: Indonesian culture. So, the elders, they all still live in the same house, the same kampung. Yeah, it's beautiful. So, there's always the kids connected with grandmum or great grandmum. Yeah. And what they'll always say, the term in Indonesia, orang belang, people say, so she would always say when we're talking about things and talking about relationships, that people say, and I always go, buku belang, the book says, And we take the piss out of each other saying, cause I love what the book says, and she says, people say, and also people say some dumb things to us as well such as, you know, one of their little what do you call it?
[00:32:45] Idiot secrets is, is don't whistle at nighttime because it attracts ghosts or attracts the hunting of the evil person.
[00:32:52] Speaker 15: My little
[00:32:52] Speaker 12: boy, the whistle. And of course, you know, he whistles anytime, but they always nervous and whistles after dark. Don't go out without your shirt on because you get muscle pain, your window will enter your body.
[00:33:03] You know, that's the program.
[00:33:06] Speaker 13: So
[00:33:06] Speaker 12: they all then react and respond to that. It's quite interesting. And it's, it's what society does. And the new conspiracists in my head puts that little thing is the powers to be, don't really want you to know these simple techniques because they don't manage to control you.
[00:33:20] We learn to control it. That was, and that's what I'm very much about what we talked about right at the start, people taking power. Yeah. That's a big thing. It's so important.
[00:33:30] Speaker 11: It's a big thing. I got my black belt when I was 50 and it's really interesting when you, when you and I say that it's a humble brag, right?
[00:33:38] I'm really proud of it. But,
[00:33:41] But it's been, there was a huge challenge there around stepping into my power. And the funniest thing was I had all these blocks. I had all these things about not being good enough at this and not being good enough at that. And the not good, you know, not enoughness, I call it not enoughness.
[00:33:58] And I had a lot of not enoughness. Based on my life experience and, and I was slowly, you know, eliminating what actually I was not good enough at to do the grading and had to train and what I actually was, you know, and it was a confidence issue. And it was also a spiritual process of really stepping into how much power I have.
[00:34:18] And then it was. on the day. It was by no means a perfect grading. It never is, but, but it was pretty good. And I realized that actually the test on the day wasn't about how well you knew techniques or how brave you were or how powerful you were or any of those things. It was literally, can you be present?
[00:34:38] Can you be present and focused for five hours? It's a five hour long test for an You know, and it was like, can you trust your body and trust your instinct and trust what you know long enough to get through this thing and like not get in your own way, you know, and that was a really interesting experience because I realized that the power that we always have is.
[00:35:01] To recognize where we are right now, like, accept the simple truth of your reality.
[00:35:08] Speaker 12: Isn't this like a lot of things that have hidden agendas? I mean, that's what it was showing you. Be present, be in your space, be comfortable in your space. But they didn't tell you that's what they're going to do. They'll tell you you're going to give you a black belt.
[00:35:18] Speaker 13: Yeah.
[00:35:20] Speaker 12: All the other qualities that comes martial arts is an amazing thing about discipline.
[00:35:25] Speaker 13: Yeah,
[00:35:25] Speaker 12: that's what it's mostly about is about discipline. And it's, you know, you also got Great little weaponry in your body. When you, once you learn it, no, I don't learn it to be able to
[00:35:38] Speaker 11: win a fight.
[00:35:39] Speaker 12: No, no, no. In fact, what it does is stop you from fighting.
[00:35:42] Speaker 11: No, you never have to fight. That's absolutely right. And in fact, it also allows you to protect others. I've had experiences. Do you remember at the beginning of COVID when there was a fair bit of racism flying around, particularly around like Asian cultures. And there was this crazy stuff going on.
[00:35:58] I remember seeing a woman getting harassed in a car park locally, you know, when you're allowed to go to the shops once a week. I went to the shops and it was kind of empty. And there's this woman being completely abused by men. And I just walked over there and it was fascinating. The moment I even, turn towards it.
[00:36:14] And one of the reasons I could walk over there as a not very large woman is because I have much less training. I'm not scared in that situation. So I'm able to advocate for someone who is scared and being unfairly treated. And, and I love that about it. And so I just started to walk there. The moment I started to walk in that direction, the man turned and walked away.
[00:36:33] And I was like, that is so cool. Like just witness, you know, ethical bystanding. And then the other part of it that was fascinating was that when I then checked in with her and said, are you okay? And I started to walk away. He began to return and it was fascinating. And I noticed you'd be really
[00:36:50] Speaker 12: proud of your energy, Don, that shows your presence and what your energy.
[00:36:53] I
[00:36:53] Speaker 11: was really proud of my energy. I looked at him, I gave him the, the martial our eyes, which is like, don't fuck with me. you know, I'm not scared of you. And he turned and walked away. And I was like, look at that. Like sometimes the power of presence and simple, like it was intention really. Like I didn't say a word to the man, literally just looked at him and said, you know, you can get fucked.
[00:37:15] And I'm looking after this lady. And it was like, awesome. I said all of that with just being there. And I think that is something that it's something we don't kind of cultivate or talk about enough. It's like our ability to use our presence, our energy, our power in ourselves. As you say, knowing that power is a really cool thing.
[00:37:34] Like I can't do it all the time, but it's there.
[00:37:38] Speaker 12: But, but at least also, this is another thing where you have empathy and compassion, which unfortunately our society is lost. And we don't want to say that we will see that, and we might get the camera going and film it, but we're certainly not going to get involved in it.
[00:37:50] Speaker 11: Yeah,
[00:37:51] Speaker 12: I will. I'm the idiot that will. I'm like you, I will as well. But the fact is, most people won't because they're frightened that they'll get involved and they'll have to actually go and step up and actually be counted here. And this is something, and we're all human beings, and this is one of the lovely things I've learned.
[00:38:08] Like about bodies, because I treat people from all over the world. And one of the things I've worked in, it's Elena, is that it doesn't matter who we are. We're all of the human race or color, whatever. We're all human beings. And that's the part of where I work with. It doesn't matter who, where they're from.
[00:38:24] Everyone's got the same emotions. We're all humans. Yes, that's an essential truth, our application to 'em. But we are all humans. We all get sad, we all get happy, we all get pissed off. We all get frustrated. Yeah. And that's one common thing that every human being does. And when we start understanding this, you know, we come from a culture that's taught to be racist.
[00:38:43] And yes we are.
[00:38:45] Speaker 13: I know,
[00:38:45] Speaker 12: I really, I really not a wonderful thing.
[00:38:48] Speaker 13: Yeah.
[00:38:49] Speaker 12: I think the white Australian policy was still in presence until the sixties in Australia. It's still a generation of those people, which I'm part of that generation still exists. And as you know, we're incredibly multicultural Australia.
[00:39:04] And it has the facade that it really is wonderful and it melts beautifully together. Well, the reality is it doesn't. It should, but it doesn't. Because sometimes it does not. You've got a different creed. You've got different skin color. You eat different food. You wear different clothes.
[00:39:18] Speaker 11: Yeah. Difference.
[00:39:19] It's that fear of difference. And I think it's a little bit about that. That uncomfortability that you were talking about before. And to me, the antidote is connection to do like, to me, the antidote is like you say, connecting with the things we have in common more than the things we don't. And understanding that when we have resistance to something we don't understand, that's a natural, that's a natural process.
[00:39:38] And it just speaks to something in us that needs some attention and has nothing to do with that person, really.
[00:39:45] Speaker 12: No, not really. Well, unfortunately, when most people get to know him, they, or not unfortunate, but fortunately, when they get to know him, they realize, well, he's just a really good guy. Of course, he was a lot about that, isn't it?
[00:39:54] Connecting,
[00:39:55] Speaker 11: connecting, connecting.
[00:39:56] Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you're
[00:39:57] Speaker 11: right. So tell me what is, I'm going to, you go, I
[00:40:01] Speaker 12: was going to ask you for
[00:40:03] Speaker 11: two things before we wrap up. I'm aware we could talk for ages and I love talking to you, Jimmy. I'm so grateful for you coming on and I wanted to know, is there, is there one particular affirmation that you would, you would like to really leave listeners with that you feel is kind of a foundational one that could benefit them?
[00:40:22] Speaker 12: I think the, the one I do to every single person that comes in here be it on FaceTime or in the room here, the most important one is, I love and approve of myself. I love and accept myself. I love and appreciate myself. Those three looking in the mirror. I encourage your listeners to go and try it. See how hard it is.
[00:40:40] Speaker 14: The deal
[00:40:42] Speaker 12: is to smile as you do it. Then you realize how really difficult it is. People find reasons not to get in front of the mirror. They'll close their eyes when they're doing it. This is the challenge. Once also, you know how to love yourself, then you'll attract the love you deserve. But we're not programmed into loving yourself.
[00:40:57] Because we, as I said before, we're taught yourself if you can see that you fool yourself. It's not at all. Once we know how to love ourself, we'll actually let the love come in that we deserve. And the more we work at it. So I've got to say that that's every single person doesn't matter, man, woman, boy, girl, old, young.
[00:41:13] They're all the same. That's everyone gets that download to go and work on that.
[00:41:17] Speaker 14: Yeah. And
[00:41:18] Speaker 12: often you learn to ask people to do it. Oh, I did it for three days. Well, this is the point. This is becomes a journey of life. And the more you say it, the truth is that's what you'll attract. So I'm glad you asked that because it really is important to learn self love.
[00:41:33] Speaker 13: Yeah. That's the one I'm going to get right on the mirror.
[00:41:35] Speaker 12: And that's the point. I get them to put the card on the mirror so that every time they see their eyes, at least once a day, they start saying it. And as I said, when you start saying it, you realize it's really, really difficult. So.
[00:41:47] Speaker 15: The two things
[00:41:48] Speaker 12: that I stress to people is about that I love and approve, but also then learning to use your tongue.
[00:41:53] Yes. But it's getting to know those situations of when to use it, which is generally most of the time.
[00:41:59] Speaker 11: Yes. Yes. And remembering, like conditioning the body to do it subconsciously.
[00:42:04] Speaker 12: You know, you meditate, I meditate. So this little thing where we, we learn to do it when we meditate, that's how you learn to use it for longer periods of time.
[00:42:11] Speaker 15: Yes.
[00:42:11] Speaker 12: And you're also learning to use it to get in a relaxed state to manage your head. So
[00:42:16] Speaker 15: I
[00:42:16] Speaker 12: encourage you people meditate that they learn to meditate with their tongue, but Google up the 10th connection. That's
[00:42:21] Speaker 13: and
[00:42:24] Speaker 12: it talks, it'll show the diagram, but what it does is connecting the chakras. It talks about the distance that it's put from the back of your teeth,
[00:42:30] Speaker 15: but
[00:42:31] Speaker 12: it also then is used in sleep, stress, connection, protection, meditation, it's used for a lot of different things.
[00:42:36] Speaker 11: Amazing.
[00:42:37] Speaker 12: And if people did it, they'll love, they'll be amazed that one simple little technique and loving themselves, how much their energy will grow anyway. And also simplify things, don't make things so complicated.
[00:42:47] Speaker 11: Yeah, keep it simple. And then the last question I'm going to ask you is, is there one unique story or insight or just something that's floating around in you at the moment that you've not really shared before, but maybe that you'd like to share now?
[00:43:01] Something very present.
[00:43:03] Speaker 12: But just people's power, darling. I've got to say, this is why I've done this for so long. And people say, doesn't it bore you? I mean, because I'm in the room, you know, client after client, what you're doing, it certainly doesn't do that. It doesn't tax me because as I said, I like seeing people take their power back.
[00:43:19] An example was a woman who I treated here and she'd gone back, she was a Romanian and gone back to her, where she was living, which is in one of the African country, African states. And she was in a beautiful, loving relationship with a guy she's been in love with for a long time, married to for a long time, and she couldn't have children.
[00:43:39] And she was told by the medical world, she was 47, I think, 46, 47, that she was too old and she should forget about it and, you know, get on with her life. And she was incredibly devastated because they really loved each other. Comfortable money, comfortable life, all the rest. They just wanted to create a family.
[00:43:58] And so they've had all the tests done by, you know, there'd be an obvious program, so it was different stuff. Anyway, long and the short of it is this woman contacted me and we, we did a couple of sessions with her. And one of the things she did as a young girl, she had an abortion as a 16 year old, and she'd never, ever told anyone about it.
[00:44:14] And this is again, relating to lots of stuff you work with with females, but these little secrets we keep from people, they're not secrets, normal facts of life. And would you worked out that The guy, you know, it was her first occasion of sex. It was all from a very strict Romanian Catholic background that you don't talk about any of that stuff, but also she went and got termination done without anyone knowing just by herself.
[00:44:36] And it was an incredibly courageous thing and must've been punishing for her head. Anyway, she had it done. And Interesting enough, that's actually why she couldn't have a baby because, you know, she never used contraception, never used anything, but never got pregnant. And funnily enough, she went back and forgave herself.
[00:44:53] And this is another little tool where you talk about these little wonderful things is learning to forgive. And forgive doesn't let anyone off the hook with saying someone's right or wrong. It says, I didn't like it. I don't agree with it. I don't want it to happen again. I'm done. I'll leave it back in the image world.
[00:45:05] There's your end. Do what you want with it. I forgive you. But it's also learning to forgive yourself. So that young lady went back and forgave herself as that 16 year old, realizing that that definitely was not the time to have the baby. That guy was definitely not the guy to be a father of her
[00:45:18] Speaker 15: child.
[00:45:19] Speaker 12: Funny enough, when she forgave herself she now has a bouncing little boy who's a couple of years old now. And the funny part about Alina, when we were doing the little work with her, she said, I just want a baby. And of course, here's our universe testing us. It gave her the baby. She was asking for a beautiful, healthy little boy.
[00:45:36] But she was so depressed afterwards. She wanted a little girl. She forgot to tell the universe what she wanted. And here's what we ask. Exactly when we ask for things. So this gets to a lot of little things about little stories that we put there that open a lot of stuff to her head. You ask for something, by all means you ask for it.
[00:45:55] Command is the word you use. Command is, in Latin, it's cooperating with man and woman. It's quite a delightful word. Demand is quite opposite. It's, it's demanding. It's defeatism. It's a, it's a, not a good word to use, but command is when we can do the command, be comfortable with what you command, but know what you're going to command, be specific to what you command, because then you'll attract it.
[00:46:17] So
[00:46:18] Speaker 11: beautiful. And it speaks to the power we have.
[00:46:21] Speaker 12: Oh, don't we have it all? I encourage people to look up that Dr. Misada. So Mr. Moto, so that they can actually see stuff. It's It's a really, and we love the sciences of things, Alina.
[00:46:32] Speaker 11: Oh yeah, me too. I'll link it in the show notes. I'll link to it. I've heard about that before.
[00:46:36] It's a fantastic experiment.
[00:46:38] Speaker 12: It's a great one. And so it's done in 1994. And this is the point is, you know, our world's starting to open up to different things here. And that's why you and I get to talk to people and people want to hear, because they want to hear a different angle of how to do this.
[00:46:51] Because, and again, we're not anti medical, but this point is it's saying this fixes we're opposed to mask yet. And you're not looking at the term. Once you fix it, you can get to know you. When that vulnerable quality comes, you learn to connect and protect.
[00:47:04] Speaker 11: Oh, I love that, Jimmy. Connect and protect. Well, thank you so much from my heart to yours.
[00:47:09] Thank you so much for hanging out here with me today. And I'm really grateful for this beautiful conversation just to get to shoot shit with you for a while. As they say,
[00:47:19] Speaker 12: I love the, the, Thank you so much for the opportunity to go and do it. Cause they're going to say that the more we spread the word, the more the word gets around.
[00:47:25] And that's how it gets to this. And I love the modern age of technology where you can do all these things. I came from dinosaur ages where this didn't exist. It's pretty clever how the whole world can connect. That's how we get the messages across. And the more people that know, the more the world is going to work with more positive vibration.
[00:47:40] And that's a great call.
[00:47:42] Speaker 11: Thank you, darling. Go well.
[00:47:44] Speaker 12: Thank you, Lena. Stay well and look after yourself and enjoy your lovely life. Speak to you soon. You
[00:47:49] Speaker 11: too. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye Jimmy. Bye.
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